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两个太阳 一大一小 同时落山(图)

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发表于 2007-12-31 04:56:33 | 只看该作者 回帖奖励 |倒序浏览 |阅读模式

昨天傍晚,难得的悠闲走在湖边。我发现了太阳落山,是两个太阳一大一小同时落山。告诉谁谁都不信,不过我有图为证(非PS)

很抱歉,我的摄影水平不行,加上傍晚光线不是很好,所以比较暗。谁能解释这种现象?






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发表于 2007-12-31 06:01:05 | 只看该作者

偶也注意到几次,貌似一个是太阳一个是云彩反光?


也许是月亮反光@。@

 
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发表于 2007-12-31 18:50:42 | 只看该作者

去湖边溜达一圈就可以发现这么少见的现象 真是幸运的新新!


  去湖边溜达一圈就可以发现这么少见的现象 真是幸运的新新!




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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-2 03:15:15 | 只看该作者
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发表于 2008-1-2 21:33:40 | 只看该作者

百度答案有誤。


1. The phenomenon is caused by the diffraction (衍射) of light with suspended ice crystals in the air, not the refraction (折射).www.ddhw.com

2. There is no need for the ice crystals in an ordered structure, disordered structure (must be crystals) still can give a diffraction pattern (typically, diffraction rings). (Like in a powder sample X-ray diffraction experiment.)

3. The double "“幻日”, observed in the diffraction ring is dependent to the observer's position.www.ddhw.com

 
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发表于 2008-1-3 01:31:30 | 只看该作者

sundog的传统解释,似乎是折射/反射,不是衍射:


 
 
I can see the sun halo from xyh's photo, which can be identified by the colorful rainbow-like edge on the right of the photos. One sundog appears quite brightly near the halo.
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发表于 2008-1-3 03:33:36 | 只看该作者

回复:sundog的传统解释,似乎是折射/反射,不是衍射:


Sunlight is not a single color light (i.e., light band with narrow wavelength range), instead it is a combination of light with a broad wavelength range, which includes all wavelengthes of the visible range (roughly from 400 nm to 850 nm). It is because this, and also the Bragg's diffraction equation:

nλ = 2d sinθ (wavelength dependent)www.ddhw.com

a hue (rainbow phenomenon) should be observed at the diffraction circle due to the different wavelengthes in the Sunlight.

In fact, the observed hue and the double "Sun dog" is a proof of diffraction, since reflection and refraction can only give one fake image, not the symmetrically distributed double ones.

Unfortunately the Wikipedia is wrong too. That is why it can not be confidently used as a reliable reference resource in Academia.
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回复:回复:sundog的传统解释,似乎是折射/反射,不是衍射:(图)


I don't think that you can rule out refraction/reflection based on the color spectrum and number of sundogs. As we know, rainbow is exactly a result of refraction. Since I don't know much about the observational details of sundogs, I would not rule out diffraction as well. 
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See materials below which I found from UIUC. I believe they have good creditbility.
 
 
Sundogs
mock suns or parhelia

Sundogs, also known as mock suns or "parhelia", are a pair of brightly colored spots, one on either side of the sun.

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Photograph by: Rauber
Sundogs form as sunlight is refracted by hexagonal plate-like ice crystals with diameters larger than 30 micrometers and their flat faces horizontally oriented.

Sundogs are visible when the sun is near the horizon and on the same horizontal plane as the observer and the ice crystals. As sunlight passes through the ice crystals, it is bent by 22 degrees before reaching our eyes, much like what happens with 22 degree halos. This bending of light results in the formation of a sundog.

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The difference between sundogs and halos is the preferential orientation of the ice crystals through which the light passes before reaching our eyes. If the hexagonal crystals are oriented with their flat faces horizontal, a sundog is observed. If the hexagonal crystals are randomly oriented, a halo is observed.

 

 

=============== BTW, CAN DIFFRACTION EFFECT EXPLAIN THE VERTICAL COLOR BAR LIKE PATTERNS ON EACH OF THE SUNDOGS? (SEE BELOW)www.ddhw.com

 


 
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发表于 2008-1-4 03:01:40 | 只看该作者

wait until I get back


I'll use diagrams to explain it. Meanwhile, please check the definition of "refraction, reflection,
diffraction and scattering".
 
Sorry for the inconvenience.
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